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Category:Category:Cantonal police of the [editing] question[edit]
Wondering if it can be edited to put the correct links? It's in here. Ominae (talk) 07:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well the category has already some images see Category:Kantonspolizei Thurgau. If you want to ad images to the category, the categories are at the bottom of every page and with hitting the + sign a field in which you can add letters in it opens. Then the available categories will appear. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nah. I'm talking about the "Cantons of Switzerland" portion for Kantonspolizei Thurgau (I'll use that). The "Cantons of Switzerland" has URLs going to commons page for the various Swiss cantonal police forces. I'm trying to see if it can be edited in order to update the links. Ominae (talk) 04:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Can someone help provide text translations of the text on these images[edit]
I have uploaded all the images currently in the category Category:Ujikofuda and they are all of the same object. Can someone help provide translations of the text present on the object? It was written in 1873 and isn't the most legible. I can take a better picture if required. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Even just transcriptions would be good. Some of these characters I really cannot figure out what they are supposed to be, since I think they have archaic forms or the government official had bad handwriting. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:47, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I believe it's Japanese for the ones interested.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:20, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Category "Good pictures" dropdown[edit]
I have never understood how this is supposed to work. Let me give the random example of Category:Grange Chine. When I initially open this page, the dropdown at the top right of the page reads "Good pictures", giving the impression that this is what is being shown. However, when I actually click on "Good pictures", there is a message "No results" (message is too unobtrusive IMO, and main contents of page remain unchanged). Then when I click "All images" in the dropdown, the page layout changes, but the dropdown again goes back to reading "Good pictures". Is it just me, or is this dropdown not working correctly? ITookSomePhotos (talk) 23:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it can only be expected to work fully on a category page where there are images with the chosen designation. What happens if you click “Quality images” in the drop-down at Cruise ships in British Columbia?—Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Odysseus1479: Of course, it can only display images of the chosen type when some exist, but when none exist it should still behave sensibly. As I said, category pages initially come up ostensibly showing "Good pictures", even though when you explicitly choose "Good pictures" there are said to be "No results" (yet the page itself confusingly carries on showing what actually appears to be all members of the category). So perhaps pages come up initially showing "All images" (in the category), but no, apparently not, since choosing "All images" produces something different again. It is confusing and appears broken to the ordinary user. BTW, at Cruise ships in British Columbia the dropdown does not work at all for me (unresponsive). ITookSomePhotos (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it’s supposed to create a gallery of borderless images above all the other content, each with a small badge indicating the type of ‘goodness’. (It does not filter or hide items on the rest of the page.) Yesterday it was fairly prompt, but when I tried today my request went into a queue—as indicated in the status line, which is indeed “unobtrusive”, speaking diplomatically. ;) Give it a few minutes, though; it did come through for me eventually. (I believe “All images” means all those designated in the menu below, not literally all.) TBH I don’t use the tool often or know much about it; I suggest posting at the Technical Village Pump for more info about its function or to find out who maintains it.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
P.S. I just noticed that Help:FastCCI is linked from the bottom menu item.—21:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)- @Odysseus1479: Thanks, what you say does make sense. It seems to me, then, that the main problem, or the biggest source of confusion, is that the category page initially displays with the heading "Good pictures", giving the obvious impression that the initial page contents are "Good pictures", and that choosing something else from the dropdown list will change those contents to something else. I think it would be much clearer if the dropdown initially said something like "Choose type" ("type" isn't the best word), and also if the behaviour was improved when the chosen type doesn't exist -- not just a tiny line "No results" that appears to contradict the fact that the page as a whole remains populated with exactly the same items as before, i.e. what seems like the same "results". ITookSomePhotos (talk) 22:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Dschwen as maintainer. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @ITookSomePhotos: it’s supposed to create a gallery of borderless images above all the other content, each with a small badge indicating the type of ‘goodness’. (It does not filter or hide items on the rest of the page.) Yesterday it was fairly prompt, but when I tried today my request went into a queue—as indicated in the status line, which is indeed “unobtrusive”, speaking diplomatically. ;) Give it a few minutes, though; it did come through for me eventually. (I believe “All images” means all those designated in the menu below, not literally all.) TBH I don’t use the tool often or know much about it; I suggest posting at the Technical Village Pump for more info about its function or to find out who maintains it.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Odysseus1479: Of course, it can only display images of the chosen type when some exist, but when none exist it should still behave sensibly. As I said, category pages initially come up ostensibly showing "Good pictures", even though when you explicitly choose "Good pictures" there are said to be "No results" (yet the page itself confusingly carries on showing what actually appears to be all members of the category). So perhaps pages come up initially showing "All images" (in the category), but no, apparently not, since choosing "All images" produces something different again. It is confusing and appears broken to the ordinary user. BTW, at Cruise ships in British Columbia the dropdown does not work at all for me (unresponsive). ITookSomePhotos (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
klete keller[edit]
Hi, maybe someone can help - i'm not a lawyer and can't figure out all these complicated licenses.. the only photo I could find of Klete Keller that may be allowed on wikipedia is this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/emmymik/1012273538 ..It currently has a status of: "some rights reserved" - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/ CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 DEED This might as well be chinese to me - can someone advise if this photo can be added to the Klete Keller wiki page without risk of deletion? thank you 84.247.97.10 04:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- That is a no go for Commons because it has a noncommercial restriction (NC) and doesn't allow derivative works (ND), both of which go against what Commons considers a free license. Abzeronow (talk) 16:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok thank you - saved me alot of work for nothing.. do you know where I can find a pic of Klete Keller that can be used? appreciate any help. 84.247.97.9 00:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- On Flickr, when searching for photos after the basic term or name you're searching for, click the "Any license" and select "Commercial use & mods allowed" to find images free enough for use on Wikimedia Commons. I just tried that with "Klete Keller" and unfortunately didn't find any images so licensed on Flickr. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- thanks, yes i've been searching for almost a year and nothing comes up anywhere :( if you have any other ideas please let me know. happy new year. 84.247.97.9 01:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Regrettably, some articles just don't have images. DS (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- most bio's do.. i'll keep searching, thanks. 84.247.97.11 01:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Regrettably, some articles just don't have images. DS (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- thanks, yes i've been searching for almost a year and nothing comes up anywhere :( if you have any other ideas please let me know. happy new year. 84.247.97.9 01:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- On Flickr, when searching for photos after the basic term or name you're searching for, click the "Any license" and select "Commercial use & mods allowed" to find images free enough for use on Wikimedia Commons. I just tried that with "Klete Keller" and unfortunately didn't find any images so licensed on Flickr. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- ok thank you - saved me alot of work for nothing.. do you know where I can find a pic of Klete Keller that can be used? appreciate any help. 84.247.97.9 00:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
TimedText for Tooro[edit]
It seems that the Tooro language is not supported by TimedText, as the namespace for Tooro subtitles says "ttj subtitles for clip:" instead of "Tooro subtitles for clip:" (unlike related languages such as Nyoro, Nkore and Kiga) and the CC icon will not allow you to use Tooro subtitles. Thus, for Anthem of the Tooro Kingdom.oga, only the English subtitles can be used despite the Tooro subtitles also existing.
Tooro has been added to Names.php! Ahiise2 (talk) 16:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ahiise2 i think you need to report on phab: to ask the developers to add ttj to the list of languages supported. RZuo (talk) 12:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Ahiise2 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Feature request created. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update 2: Tooro and Nyoro are in the process of being added to Names.php. Ahiise2 (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Feature request created. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Ahiise2 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete picture[edit]
hoe I can delete my picture Youngman1991 (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Photo licensing question[edit]
I am a Wikipedia editor. I have a photo for a biographical article about a deceased person. The person who permitted me to use the photo owns the physical copy of the photo, which was given to him by the family of the deceased person. The owner of the photo understands what a photo being on wikimedia commons entails, and is happy for this photo to be uploaded.
Do I need permission from the family of the subject of the photo before uploading? Menacinglavender (talk) 05:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Menacinglavender: you don’t say what country the photo is from or when it was taken, but the person from whom you need permission is usually the photographer (or xyr heirs). If it’s an impromptu/amateur photo that might indeed be a family member, but otherwise they have no say insofar as copyright is concerned. If the photo is old enough we can assume it to be PD, even if the creator is unknown, with no permission needed from anybody. (A “Collection of X” credit to the owner is good for provenance, aside from being courteous, but is not required for licensing.)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- But "old enough" is quite old: 120 years (1903 or earlier) and/or (if it is in the U.S.) published before
19231929. (There are a few countries with shorter terms, e.g. Argentina, Italy.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)- Before 1923? Didn't we just advance to "before 1929"? --Rosenzweig τ 18:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- If this is for the English-language Wikipedia, it may be simpler to leave Commons out of the picture and upload the image on a non-free basis. See en:John du Pont for a good example (click through on the lead photo, you'll see how they handled this). - Jmabel ! talk 19:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- From the OP’s enWP user page I guess the relevant country is New Zealand. IIUC the rights on a commissioned photo there belong to the person ordering the work unless the contract says otherwise. So even a professional portrait’s copyright might belong to a family member. Also AFAICT the 50-year term for a work of unknown authorship doesn’t start until it’s published.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- But "old enough" is quite old: 120 years (1903 or earlier) and/or (if it is in the U.S.) published before
My photo was nominated to delete - but it's my property.[edit]
The photo I uploaded https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ninawawryszuk was nominated for deletion. I am the author of this photo (this is me, shot taken by self-timer). I am the owner for this picture. Please cancel the deletion process and show me what to do to avoid this kind of problems in the future. Ninawawryszuk (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- The issue here is not copyright, but scope: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ninawawryszuk.jpg. Seeing the quality of the picture, I would keep this one. Yann (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Non carica la foto[edit]
Ho una mia foto personale che mi ritrae in una posa di quando facevo ginnastica e gareggiavo ma non riesco a caricarla sulla pagina di Ilenia Meneghesso, nonchè la sottoscritta. Grazie Ilenia79 (talk) 15:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused here.
- Normally, the copyright of a photo belongs to the photographer, not the subject, and only the owner of the copyright can grant a license. So if the photo is of you, then presumably you are not the person who can legitimately grant a license.
- On the technical side: you don't say what tool you were using to upload the photo, or what went wrong, but usually the best way for beginners to upload to Commons is with Special:UploadWizard.
- By the way, if you are Ilenia Meneghesso, you may want to set up a verified account. Not required since you are using only your first name, but probably still a good idea. See Commons:Username policy#Well-known names and names of organizations. - Jmabel ! talk 19:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
How do I add a photo from Commons to articles[edit]
on English Wikipedia? I thought this would be easy and basic info, but I cannot find the instructions. Yesterday I added to Commons a publicly available, out of copyright photo of attorney Roslyn Litman with her client, the professional basketball player Connie Hawkins. Each of them has an article on English Wikipedia, where I am an autoconfirmed editor but not experienced in inserting a photo. Where can I find the step-by-step instructions for this process? PDGPA (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- You might be looking for WP:COMMONS. Ahiise2 (talk) 17:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- @PDGPA: Hi, and welcome. You have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/156 by trying to upload smaller (<50,000 bytes) jpg images as a new user. Please see COM:HR. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Not sure the significance of that "abuse" warning. The picture is not publicly available, to my knowledge, in any higher resolution format. In any event, it appears to now be added to Commons, and I then used that link to add it to the Wikipedia article on each of the individuals pictured. PDGPA (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
TVLine uploaded a new promo art of NCIS but can it be used?[edit]
TVLine just uploaded this image: https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/ncis-season-21-key-art-768x1112.jpg
and I’m wondering if this is okay to upload to Wikimedia Commons and use it for NCIS Season 21 Wikipedia page? RayKVega (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega only if it satisfies com:licensing. most posters dont. RZuo (talk) 06:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, for such recent promotional works unless the creator/copyright holder specifically authorizes free license, assume it is under copyright. It cannot be uploaded here to Commons, which is for free licensed images only. (English language Wikipedia does allow limited "fair use" of copyrighted material; ask there for details.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
I try uploading a picture but I cannot save it to common, why?[edit]
I try to upload as shown, I drag and drop the photo. The photo appear but I cannot save it because there is no text that tells me that surrounding my photo. When I click it, the menu that appear pertains only to my pc. but not to wikipedia media. EmerEvolve (talk) 10:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @EmerEvolve: Hi, and welcome. We need more details, for instance "as shown" where? You have also triggered Special:AbuseFilter/156 by trying to upload smaller (<50,000 bytes) jpg images as a new user. Please see COM:HR. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Wrong "Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number" link generated[edit]
The Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number for the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg painting is 08600040.The value stored at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 is IAP 08600040. With that value, the References link generated in the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg Summary section points to https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&menu=search&index=.NW&term=IAP resulting in the following warning when that is accessed:
Search results:
373832 titles matched:IAP
Warning: Unable to sort search results. The maximum number of results for searching has been exceeded.
That link is different from the Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&menu=search&index=.NW&term=IAP%2008600040 link at the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 file, that instead of 373832 results, only finds the painting of interest.
For some reason whatever generates the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Cassatt,_Mother_and_Child,_c._1905,_NGA_46573.jpg Summary section References link is truncating what follows IAP in the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20190957 Inventories of American Painting and Sculpture control number. Mabrndt (talk) 15:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good observation. You could post to Commons:Village pump/Technical also. This problem also affects other files, probably all files in the same situation. Strangely, the link to the inventory in the category links to a search page on the number, which is not as bad as in the file description pages, although not correct either. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging Jarekt: Hi, Any idea to fix the artwork links to the siris webpages? -- Asclepias (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Image usage rights[edit]
Hello, I got permission from the Utah Historical Society to use this image of the delegates from the Utah Constitutional Convention. They historical society said to upload it with the stipulation that it had to be used for non-commercial purposes, and credit should be given. I uploaded it like that, but upon returning to the file later on I found someone had changed it to be "public domain." I am confused and want to avoid trouble with the Utah Historical Society and would appreciate any help. Thanks. Moroni713 (talk) 19:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Moroni713: On what possible basis are they claiming that a U.S. image published in 1895 is still in copyright? Clearly it is {{PD-US-expired}}, no matter what they may say.
- FWIW, if it were still copyrighted (and they owned the copyright), non-commercial licenses are not acceptable for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 20:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Does that include movie posters and TV shows promo artworks such as this one from NCIS that just came out yesterday? RayKVega (talk) 23:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega: Yes, similar rules for everything - per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States looks like that NCIS image may fall into the public domain 95 years after creation, so could probably be uploaded here on 1 January 2120. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- 2120. I made a similar mistake a week ago. But, yes, 95 years assuming there is no identified individual author. If there is, then for U.S. works first published 2003 or later, it's life + 70 years, which of course could be earlier or later, but for works whose authors were alive at time of publication won't begin to be relevant at all before 2073. - Jmabel ! talk 00:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes thanks, Jmabel, year corrected :-) I was aware that there are also other factors - which is why I said "may" rather than "will" - but I wanted to give RayKVega a general sense that it wouldn't be PD any time soon. Cheers! -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RayKVega: Yes, similar rules for everything - per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States looks like that NCIS image may fall into the public domain 95 years after creation, so could probably be uploaded here on 1 January 2120. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the image published in the USA in 1895 is {{PD-US-expired}}, no matter what the Historical Society may say. Giving them a link or credit as a courtesy is good, but understand they cannot put a copyright restriction on something that is already public domain. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I should also point out, it's by J. W. Shipler, who died in 1937. So it'd be "-auto-expired|1937". DS (talk) 23:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good point. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I need help![edit]
I'm not sure about uploading a screenshot of another website to Commons. Do I still need to display the license of copyright? What if there's insufficient info about the license of the website? Cowboyhats12 (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cowboyhats12: There is no general answer to your question, you'd need to give a more concrete example.
- For what it's worth, well over 95% of what is on the Internet is copyrighted, does not offer a free license, and therefore is not suitable for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 20:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cowboyhats12 Jmabel is right. Commons only accepts commercial-type licenses according to COM:Licensing#Acceptable licenses, like CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, CC-zero, and PD. See also COM:CRSM#Internet images. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 00:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
How to release a photo of a sketch by a dead artist.[edit]
Hello:
I am. assisting a friend of mine (Mark) in creating a wiki page. The pagee is about an artist who is no longer alive. The artists name is Eugene Chodorow.
Mark has taken a photo of a sketch that Eugene made. That sketch was used by Eugene as a guide when Eugene painted a mural. The Sketch was nevere published. Eugene's daughter, who is still alive, owns the sketch.
Do I have to get Eugene's daughter, to fill out Wikipedia's Creative Commons release form?
Thanks Go1denScarab Go1denScarab (talk) 02:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Go1denScarab:
- If Eugene's daughter has a web presence that is clearly hers, and where it is clear that she is the artist's daughter, she can just grant the license on a page clearly under her control. Then you or anyone can reference that as a source when uploading. She could even do that after-the-fact, with her permission and the Commons file page cross-linking to one another.
- In theory, Eugene's daughter can create an account of her own and upload using a license like {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}}, but I could imagine someone doubting her identity and having no way to check without going through VRT anyway, so I don't recommend that approach.
- I think the simplest thing would be for Eugene's daughter to go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to grant a license.
- - Jmabel ! talk 03:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Go1denScarab: Right, and you also need permission from Mark for the photo. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Is there a template for "this file should be wikitext?"[edit]
I very vaguely remember that I used to tag files as "this should be wikitext, replace with the following wiki-code and delete the file later", but I forgot whether I used to use a template for these. I tried searching for "replaced by Wikitext" in Special:Search under the "general help" preset, but most of the hits were deletion requests. Artoria2e5 contribs 04:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm an idiot, Template:ShouldBeText. Artoria2e5 contribs 04:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I need to reupload a entire directory[edit]
I was so stupid. I used the Samsung gallery as a file picker. It removed all the exif info when it handed the files over to commons.
Okay. Now I have a different file picker that won't strip the exif info.
But I can't reupload any of those files because it says they are duplicates!
Therefore will the team kindly remove all the files that look like... https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20231101_Taiwan_night_overflight_29.jpg yes all 29 of them. Because there's no way I can individually replace each single one... that would take all night. So just remove all of them so I can re-upload the entire directory. Thank you very much. Jidanni (talk) 07:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20231101_Luzon_night_overflight_11.jpg also needs to be removed. All 11 of them. However there's a similarly named set of 11 pictures that I uploaded right after those. Those need to stay. Those are the correct replacements.
- Yes the upload form shows clearly if there is latitude and longitude. Therefore I will pay more attention. To make sure that whatever file picker I use doesn't strip it ever again. Jidanni (talk) 07:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- exif is still there?
- Camera manufacturer
- samsung
- Camera model
- SM-A136U
- Date and time of data generation
- 19:23, 1 November 2023
- ... RZuo (talk) 08:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that: The upload process will only indicate a duplicate for completely identical files (i.e. both come with exif or both come without exif). While files should contain exif, it is ok, it they don't have it. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- okay. You are both very right. By exif info I was mainly referring to the very valuable locations. The Samsung corporation, no matter via its gallery app, or its files app is probably attempting to protect the user from accidentally divulging his location. Okay fine.
- Okay now I've used the CX file explorer app as a selector and successfully got all my pictures uploaded with their locations!
- And indeed you were right, I saw the warnings, when I was actually unintentionally about to upload a second bad set.
- Okay now all that needs to be done is for somebody to please remove the above mentioned 29 images, and the other 11 images also mentioned above.
- I have used slightly different names to successfully upload a fresh set of the 29, and fresh set of the 11.
- Please use the URLs I have mentioned above. If you look in my contributions you'll get confused because of similar names. So don't look there. Just use those URLs above and change the numbers at the back. Thanks! Jidanni (talk) 02:16, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jidanni: Done. By the way, in the future, when referring to files on Commons, please use internal links (e.g. File:20231101 Taiwan night overflight 29.jpg rather than URLs. Unlike URLs, these will work correctly both for people using a phone/tablet and people using a PC. - Jmabel ! talk 06:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from that: The upload process will only indicate a duplicate for completely identical files (i.e. both come with exif or both come without exif). While files should contain exif, it is ok, it they don't have it. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Deletion request[edit]
I've lost all means of contacting the author of this photo, therefore I ask you to delete it as I won't be able to provide sufficient licensing information. Thanks! --Oleh325 (talk) 13:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Oleh325: Hi, and welcome. File:Ambasador Dytynstva Anthem.jpg will probably be deleted in a week. Please read COM:DP. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Done Prompt request by uploader to delete, no reason to wait. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
A more correct name for an old portrait on "Commons" please[edit]
Please see my ONLY concern at bottom of page RE this old photo below: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Matriach_Sarah_Meadows_Martineau_%28d.1800%29.jpg
has a strange name/title which includes the unnecessary word "Matriarch".
I suggest - using this link below as guidance - https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/103813
That the file/name be changed to Dame Sarah Martineau
Thank you in advance 175.38.42.62 05:57, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, and welcome. Please use {{Rename}} or our RenameLink gadget, as well as internal links. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 06:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I got very confused trying to change the name of the above Commons file/image.
I tried to read your instructions - but "Gadget" made no sense to me. I did not know where to start. I am a mature man and maybe shouldn't be trying to change the names of files. I feel helpless and hopeless! 175.38.42.62 07:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping that you would click the (probably blue) words I wrote above as wikilinks, like "Rename", "our RenameLink gadget", and "internal links". However, as an anonymous user, you are not allowed to use most gadgets. This is one of many reasons to create an account and log in. See also User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 08:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did click on the blue words - as you hoped I might - but did not know what to do. If you are able to place a more appropriate name on the file, that would be wonderful. Perhaps I can ask a technician for assistance thanks again 175.38.42.62 10:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- To reduce headaches, I don't rename files that are unlikely to stick around. Also, "Matriach" ≠ "Matriarch" (note the missing "r"). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: in what sense "unlikely to stick around"? - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Did you read what I wrote at User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status? Do you consider special:diff/788171915 plus my doubts sufficient justification for a DR? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: no, unsurprisingly I was not following this user's talk page, and while it had been linked earlier in the conversation it was not linked in your remark about "unlikely to stick around". But if it is, indeed, an early 19th-century image (and it looks like it could be) it should certainly be PD. - Jmabel ! talk 00:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/1/13/Meadows-271.jpg does suggest the underlying picture is actually by Opie, unless someone is perpetrating a pretty elaborate hoax. - Jmabel ! talk 00:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also believe that the portrait is genuine (by John Opie) and I also note that its strange title "Matriach" is wrong and/or makes no sense. The subject's name according to the Leodis article - see above - is Dame Sarah Martineau. I cannot change the name as I am not technically proficient enough. Can someone please do this ? Thanks in advance. 175.38.42.62 01:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @175.38.42.62: No, it is not that you are "not technically proficient enough": it's that you are not a filemover (you're not even editing from a logged-in account). And, please, hold your horses. This doesn't seem to have consensus yet, still waiting to hear from Jeff G. whether he still has doubts, and if so why. - Jmabel ! talk 07:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: This file appears to be a photo of a dirty glossy print of a representation of a drawing or painting from some two centuries ago. It has black defects different from the white defects in https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/1/13/Meadows-271.jpg , which appears to be a photo or scan of a book showing a drawing or painting from some two centuries ago. Although "Matriach" is clearly wrong, I don't see a clear reason to remove maiden name "Meadows" from the filename or to add "Dame" (who gave her that title when, and what evidence do we have of that?). Which of the File Renaming Criteria would that satisfy? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Given that there's the typo that would justify a rename, we can as well remove the whole word. I suggest to rename as "Sarah Meadows Martineau". -- Asclepias (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with what Asclepias suggests here.
- Jeff G., do you still think this image is likely to be deleted? And can anyone pin down the date (we've had two different dates differing by almost a century, but both safely before 1929). - Jmabel ! talk 19:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- The date that was written at upload looked bogus. I think that the date written by Jeff G. (circa 1800) is reasonable. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- This document:
- https://www.leodis.net/viewimage/103813
- gives Sarah's name as Dame Sarah Martineau - I suggest "nee Meadows" is added after her name as well. Thanks 2001:4479:6201:ED00:441F:501E:8854:E2F5 22:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any evidence she used "Meadows" or another name as a middle name? "nee" or "née"? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:36, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Although the IP person may be giving too much importance to a simple filename, their dedication to this matter is remarkable and at this point I'd say, ok, let's agree with their suggested wording "Dame Sarah Martineau (née Meadows).jpg". The Dame thing, although superfluous IMHO, is apparently supported by its use by the Leeds website. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:01, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: No, I'm inclined to keep now. My estimate of circa 1800 was based on the death dates of the artist and the subject; certainly no later than 1807, so 1899 looked bogus to me, too. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:40, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Use of maiden name positioned as a middle name is a pretty common U.S. convention, still sometimes folowed. (The other convention, almost completely dropped over the last few generations, was to simply use "Mrs.", followed by the husband's full name.) I see no reason not to use it here. No reason for an honorific, we rarely use them. So it will be File:Sarah Meadows Martineau (d.1800).jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 17:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- The date that was written at upload looked bogus. I think that the date written by Jeff G. (circa 1800) is reasonable. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Given that there's the typo that would justify a rename, we can as well remove the whole word. I suggest to rename as "Sarah Meadows Martineau". -- Asclepias (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: This file appears to be a photo of a dirty glossy print of a representation of a drawing or painting from some two centuries ago. It has black defects different from the white defects in https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/1/13/Meadows-271.jpg , which appears to be a photo or scan of a book showing a drawing or painting from some two centuries ago. Although "Matriach" is clearly wrong, I don't see a clear reason to remove maiden name "Meadows" from the filename or to add "Dame" (who gave her that title when, and what evidence do we have of that?). Which of the File Renaming Criteria would that satisfy? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @175.38.42.62: No, it is not that you are "not technically proficient enough": it's that you are not a filemover (you're not even editing from a logged-in account). And, please, hold your horses. This doesn't seem to have consensus yet, still waiting to hear from Jeff G. whether he still has doubts, and if so why. - Jmabel ! talk 07:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also believe that the portrait is genuine (by John Opie) and I also note that its strange title "Matriach" is wrong and/or makes no sense. The subject's name according to the Leodis article - see above - is Dame Sarah Martineau. I cannot change the name as I am not technically proficient enough. Can someone please do this ? Thanks in advance. 175.38.42.62 01:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Did you read what I wrote at User talk:Srbernadette#File copyright status? Do you consider special:diff/788171915 plus my doubts sufficient justification for a DR? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: in what sense "unlikely to stick around"? - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- To reduce headaches, I don't rename files that are unlikely to stick around. Also, "Matriach" ≠ "Matriarch" (note the missing "r"). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I did click on the blue words - as you hoped I might - but did not know what to do. If you are able to place a more appropriate name on the file, that would be wonderful. Perhaps I can ask a technician for assistance thanks again 175.38.42.62 10:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
ONE SMALL ISSUE!
- Good work - I am sure that any engraving - such as you say this portrait is (John Opie himself did oil paintings) - of this work would have been done in the EARLY 19th century. I'm not at all convinced that the engraving is (as the Commons page states):
Description English: Drawing of Norwich Matriarch Sarah Meadows Martineau (d.1800). This may be a late 19th-century engraving of that drawing. Please fix to: "...may be an early 19th century engraving of that drawing". I worked out the year of birth of Sarah from the Leodis website. Finally, Commons has portraits of many, many subjects with their "titles". Consequently, I have placed the word "Dame" in the description believing this the correct approach. I hope you are OK with this! (For what it's worth, to my mind, the title "Dame" should be in the actual title of the Commons page under discussion). Thank you so much again175.38.42.62 04:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
A more correct name for an old portrait on "Commons" please[edit]
Please see above (7 sections above) for the most recent communication on this matter. Thanks 175.38.42.62 02:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Now, of course, one section above because I moved this. Please don't split a single discussion to non-adjacent sections. And don't presume that "7 sections above" will make any sense over time: sections get archived one-by-one, the intervals can change. - Jmabel ! talk 06:55, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Confusing language at a template: please clarify on DACH copyright law[edit]
{{Urheberrechtlich geschützt}} says that in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland, a creative work may be under copyright if the author has not yet been deceased for 70 years. This tag is applied to works such as File:Steamboat Willie Enters the Public Domain.jpg, which is explicitly licensed as CC BY 4.0. Is there something about the law of these three places that prohibits someone from licensing his own work as CC BY? Do they not recognize the ability of authors to release certain restrictions to their own work? This seems pretty incredible and unlikely to me, but if so, this template presumably needs to be added to tens of millions of files here or it should be removed on files that are contemporaneous and deliberately given CC (or GFDL, etc.) licenses. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Justin: That template is only used 60 times (redirect {{Geschützt}} is used another 9 times), and it was added to that file in this edit 16:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC) by Chaddy. They may be able to explain why. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Copyrighted derivatives of copyrighted previous works have two or more copyrights: the copyright of the previous work, which is owned by the copyright owner of the previous work, and the copyrights of the the additional creative works added to form the derivative work, which are owned by the copyright owners of the additional creative works added to form the final derivative work. In the case of the file in the above example, the de.wm template does not relate to the added work that is licensed CC, it relates to the previous original non-free work from which the final work is derived. See Commons:Derivative works, mutatis mutandis for the copyrights in the countries considered by the de.wm projects. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, but who is that person purported to be in this case? For convenience, let's say that it's Ub Iwerks, who died in 1971. This is a work for hire, so he never personally owned the copyright to his work. In DACH places, do they just assign him the copyright anyway? What about works made for the United States federal government, which are all public domain locally? Are they given a copyright in spite of the fact that they literally never had one? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- In Germany, there is no "work for hire" concept, the copyright always remains with the author (a human being, with some limited exceptions for older German works that do not apply to foreign works). And Germany has a bilateral copyright treaty with the US from the late 1800s (still in force) which says that works by American authors are given the same copyright protection in Germany as local works by German authors. So the German copyright for the works of Ub Iwerks rests with Iwerks or more precisely his heirs, until the end of 2041. The situation is probably similar in other countries. --Rosenzweig τ 16:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow. Also true in Austria and Switzerland? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think so, but I would have to check to be absolutely sure. Generally, Austrian copyright is very similar to German copyright, while Swiss copyright can be a bit different. --Rosenzweig τ 17:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow. Also true in Austria and Switzerland? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- In Germany, there is no "work for hire" concept, the copyright always remains with the author (a human being, with some limited exceptions for older German works that do not apply to foreign works). And Germany has a bilateral copyright treaty with the US from the late 1800s (still in force) which says that works by American authors are given the same copyright protection in Germany as local works by German authors. So the German copyright for the works of Ub Iwerks rests with Iwerks or more precisely his heirs, until the end of 2041. The situation is probably similar in other countries. --Rosenzweig τ 16:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, but who is that person purported to be in this case? For convenience, let's say that it's Ub Iwerks, who died in 1971. This is a work for hire, so he never personally owned the copyright to his work. In DACH places, do they just assign him the copyright anyway? What about works made for the United States federal government, which are all public domain locally? Are they given a copyright in spite of the fact that they literally never had one? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Duration of copyright based on the year of death of the author is the law in most countries, I think. However, it can coexist with concepts in some ways similar to work for hire. For example, in the Canadian law, Article 13(3), when a work is made in the course of employment, the employer is the owner of the copyright. But the duration of that copyright is still based on the year of death of the employee who is the author. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: That's the distinction between the author of a work and the holder of the copyright on that work. The duration of the copyright is calculated on the basis of the year of death of the author. It remains fixed to that. It doesn't change everytime the copyright changes owner and becomes held by some person or another. The enforcement of the copyright is the prerogative of whoever happens to be the copyright holder at any given time, but the duration of the copyright doesn't change, it always remains fixed on the basis of the year of death of the author.
- Works made for the U.S. gov are copyrighted even in the U.S., unless they are made by regular employees of the U.S. gov, in which case they are in the public domain in the U.S. only. As is specified in the official copyright notice of the U.S. gov, the U.S. gov does state that it holds the copyright on those works in the countries under whose laws they are copyrighted, even if they are not copyrighted under the U.S. law. They do have a copyright in those countries and always had one. The U.S. gov probably exercises its foreign copyrights rarely, but it can do it. By the way, that's why it is important for Commons to keep the free licenses sometimes attributed to those works, e.g. CC by or CC0 on flickr, as those free licenses make the works free worldwide, whereas an unlicensed automatic PD-US-gov applies in the U.S. only. The author is whoever is identified as such. If unknown, then it follows the rules for anonymous works. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but to be clear, I'm not talking about the existence of a copyright, but the licensing of a copyright for the new work that is that file. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- That template is used in the German language versions of various PD-US, PD-Italy and similar license tags. Like this: [1] --Rosenzweig τ 16:41, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosenzweig: I see, so this template transclusion count from the templatecount tool does not include the German language versions, which I think should be fixed. Is there any lobbying to get work for hire into the copyright law of such country or countries? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: I'm not aware of any such lobbying. In Germany, this situation is managed by Nutzungsrechte (usage rights) and contracts. --Rosenzweig τ 17:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosenzweig: I see, so this template transclusion count from the templatecount tool does not include the German language versions, which I think should be fixed. Is there any lobbying to get work for hire into the copyright law of such country or countries? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Otherwise than in the USA Mickey Mouse unfortunately is still copyright-protected in Germany (and possibly many other countries that use 70 years pma). Therefore, this tag is needed for these files. -- Chaddy (talk) 15:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Political Party logo - public domain?[edit]
Hi there. I am looking to create a wikipedia page on a new political party (Brighton and Hove Independents) that was formed and registered in 2022 and contested Brighton and Hove City Council Elections on 4th May 2023, winning 2 out of 54 seats. There is no wikipedia page for it. The logo image for this party is published on the UK Electoral Commission Register. I wanted to know, does this count as being in the public domain for the purposes of a Wikimedia Commons upload? As I would like to use the logo for the page. I am not associated with the party in any way, so do not have ownership of the image. Wasp681 (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Wasp681: Hi, Recent logos are copyrighted and not free, like any other artistic work, unless they are very simple, such as to be PD-textlogo. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I will create the page without the logo in that case Wasp681 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Wasp681: The English-language Wikipedia may allow the non-free logo in the article about the party, if the logo is uploaded to that Wikipedia, not to Commons. There should be an option for that at Wikipedia. However, before you put much work into the article, a first question will be to meet the notability criteria of Wikipedia. Please see all that with Wikipedia. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply. I will create the page without the logo in that case Wasp681 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
I would like to upload a city flag[edit]
I would like to upload a city flag, as I am currently attempting to edit a page with US city flags archives, the reason being that my desired cities flag is not listed. I am not sure if I have the ability to upload this flag, and am wondering whether I need permission to do so. Diibragimov (talk) 15:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Diibragimov: Which state is the city in, and do you know when the city flag you want to add was created? Abzeronow (talk) 17:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, most U.S. city flags are copyrighted, but there are exceptions. Besides what Abzeronow asked, it would be very useful if you would simply say what city. - Jmabel ! talk 20:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Свиридов, Виктор Михайлович[edit]
Не могу самостоятельно восстановить страницу Свиридов Виктор Михайлович. Помогите мне ее восстановить. Свиридов Виктор Михайлович (talk) 16:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Свиридов Виктор Михайлович: Я понятия не имею, о какой странице вы говорите. Вы уверены, что это вопрос о Wikimedia Commons? Jmabel ! talk 20:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Biography of a deceased person[edit]
Hi, i am preparing my father's biography, he was an Iraqi Composer; who passed away in 2007. I have prepared the biography along with the required citations and references and links etc.. i would like to add a profile picture, which is available in the public domain and used by other online articles etc, but during the upload process it is rejected. Could you assist me or guide me on the matter. It is a photo of my deceased father. Sue Cosgrave (talk) 19:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Why is the picture in the public domain? (Do keep in mind that well under 5% of what is on the Internet is in the public domain.) You might want to look at Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Iraq. - Jmabel ! talk 20:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, while the following isn't Commons' affair: you should definitely read en:WP:COI and make the relevant disclosure about your relation to the person you are writing about, because if you don't do that then you are very likely to be blocked on the English-language Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 21:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank´s Jmabel. Where do I fill in this information? It will be filled by whoever takes over from me as I don't have time to continue with this project. Sue Cosgrave (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- I presume the disclosure only needs to be made if there is a COI? Sue Cosgrave (talk) 14:09, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Typically, if no one involved is being paid, on the talk page of the relevant article(s). Here's an example of one that I did: en:Talk:Lena Levine#Full disclosure. And en:Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide may be a better place for someone to start than en:WP:COI, which I linked above. - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Upload issues[edit]
on the talk page for WIKITONGUES- jan Tepo and jan Lakuse speaking Toki Pona.webm, I have included some of my issues with trying to upload/convert/compress the file required for this video, if someone would be willing to help, I would be very thankful. JnpoJuwan (talk) 23:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- @JnpoJuwan: I tried with COM:V2C, but had no luck. @Chicocvenancio: could you try, perhaps without "?dl=0"? https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbued08gyf8zei1/jan%20Lakuse%20en%20jan%20Tepo%20li%20toki%20pona%20tawa%20kulupu%20Wikton.mp4 is 912,128 KB. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- any luck so far, you two? JnpoJuwan (talk) 10:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @JnpoJuwan: Did you try uploading it to YouTube (or Dailymotion / Vimeo)? Yann (talk) 11:36, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I tried to convert it with Avidemux, but it failed. There is something definitely wrong with this video. Sorry. Yann (talk) 12:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Video was truncated. I did a quick fix, but I assume it was not supposed to be only 1m 16s? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was truncated! not by choice, I tried using some commandline tools and it did and I didn't realise until after I uploaded it. JnpoJuwan (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- The dropbox version is 156KB. Do you want to upload a different version? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was truncated! not by choice, I tried using some commandline tools and it did and I didn't realise until after I uploaded it. JnpoJuwan (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Video was truncated. I did a quick fix, but I assume it was not supposed to be only 1m 16s? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- any luck so far, you two? JnpoJuwan (talk) 10:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
छोटी आटा चक्की कीमत - Small Flour Mill Price[edit]
छोटी आटा चक्की कीमत - "Small Flour Mill Price" संतोष भावऱ (talk) 06:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Uploading images from electronic documents publically available on the Library of Congress website.[edit]
Hello, I want to upload a photograph from an electronic document hosted on the library of congress website. The book was published in the 1890s, so it's long been public domain. However, I did not digitize the document, the library of congress did. Would uploading a public domain photo from a scan available on the Library of Congress website break wikimedia's terms of use? YumeBright (talk) 06:53, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @YumeBright: I can't think of any imaginable problem here with Wikimedia's terms of use, unless the (undescribed) content would somehow violate our terms of use.
- Scanning or otherwise faithfully replicating a 2-dimensional work creates no new intellectual property rights. All there are is the rights to the underlying work (which in this case is public domain, so there is no copyright involved). - Jmabel ! talk 07:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- YumeBright, also refer to Template:PD-scan. Zoozaz1 (talk) 05:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Terrorist-Related content[edit]
I don't think that I could ask the permission to al-Hayat Media Center to use their cover song. So could I use it in it.wikipedia? 1Ciaoman1 (talk) 07:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @1Ciaoman1: How is Commons involved in that question? - Jmabel ! talk 08:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @1Ciaoman1: Hi, and welcome. Please see it:WP:EDP if you want to upload it to Italian Wikipedia. If you want to upload it here for use there, you would have to ask the al-Hayat Media Center to send permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Copyright violation[edit]
I was notified by that a photo of myself (Akira Ikemi.jpg) that I uploaded is a copyright violation. Since the person depicted in the photo is me, and the photo was taken by my son, and uploaded on my own website (www.akira-Ikemi.net) I am the copyright holder of this photo. Why would uploading this photo on Wiki be a copyright violation, if the copyright holder is uploading it? Akira Ikemi (talk) 11:52, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Akira Ikemi: Hi, and welcome. Please have your son send permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you, or send it yourself as his guardian. Pinging @UCinternational as tagger. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. I have two further questions: (1) Actually I paid my son to take a photo of me, so that I could put them on my website and on flyers. He is a photographer. Does that make me the copyright holder of this photo, or is my son still the copyright holder? I don't think I can send permission as his guardian because he is way over legal age. (2) If my son is still the copyright holder, he can send permission to use the photo (Akira Ikemi.jpg) on Wikipedia via VRT with CC to me. a) He can only communicate in Japanese. Can he write in Japanese? b) I am not clear how to send permission via VRT, I would appreciate it immensely if you can show me how. Akira Ikemi (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just to clarify: I know it's weird, but your son is the copyright holder. Copyright goes to the photographer, not the subject of the photo. - Jmabel ! talk 00:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for this clarification. Akira Ikemi (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Japanese is fine. Ability for a person to transfer copyrights within their lifetime varies from country to country, and I don't know the rules for Japan, but I'm guessing you wouldn't have done something in writing with your own son and few countries allow this to be done orally. If you did have a written document transferring copyright, we could accept a scan of that.
- Here's a writeup of the VRT instructions in Japanese: Commons:Volunteer_Response_Team/ja. - Jmabel ! talk 18:03, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for this clarification. Akira Ikemi (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I can't upload my own work[edit]
I get the message "Disallow; Filter description: Prevent spamming in PDF files by new users"? Please help Historyradio (talk) 12:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Historyradio: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/281 by trying to upload one or more pdf files as a new user. Such uploads of pdf files are not allowed at all. The following applies for each file: Usually when someone uploads a pdf file as a new user, it's a copyright violation taken from the web or out of scope. What is in the file? If you were not the original file designer or photographer, that person or those people may need to license it on their official website or social media, or send the file and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. If you can't get a compliant license, the file may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F. Are you Michael Henrik Wynn? Did you write the poem? Did you write the book "Stories & Poems from the Twilight" in 2019? If you have the right to license them, please send permission via VRT. If not, please have the copyright holder send permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is a short story I wrote for a book. 85.191.190.235 14:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have now sent the files via the services you suggested. Thank you 85.191.190.235 15:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
RE: Quotations[edit]
Hi,
I read this statement on WC today:
"It is prohibited to copy text from non-free media like copyrighted books, articles or similar works. Information itself, however, is not copyrightable, and you are free to rewrite it in your own words.
Quotations are allowed if they are limited in size and mention the source."
Is this true?
I have reproduced some quotes on WC in my own design format and was not sure if I was allowed to by way of copyright.
Regards Darren J. Prior (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- I would guess that things like File:Gary Zukav on evolution.jpg or File:Gary Zukav on being the authority in your own life.png (for example). Quoting something like that in the context of an article would probably be fine under U.S. law; quoting it in isolation is likely to be a copyright violation, and is also not particularly in Commons' scope. - Jmabel ! talk 00:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
RE: Quotations 2/2[edit]
Hi
To follow on from my last question: I would like to upload some quotes from deceased writer and psychiatrist M. Scott Peck. I have added a design to them so they are not a copyright or photos from any of his books.
Can you tell me what license I should use for uploading them?
Finally - I uploaded some quotes recently from 2 authors - Michelle Paisley Reed and Gary Zukav with my own design. I have the wrong category for them though.
The copyright license may be the same as for M. Scott Peck's work, although Michelle and Gary are still alive mind - can you tell me how I change the licenses for the quotes I have uploaded?
Regards Darren J. Prior (talk) 19:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- You should consider adding them to wikiquote. Ruslik (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok.
- Which license should a few M. Scott Peck quotes I want to upload have? Darren J. Prior (talk) 20:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Manual transcode[edit]
Hello. Firstly, i need to say: The topic of this question is asked by me before.
I said like "how can i disable autotranscode?" and got an answer like "you can look at phabricator", but i cannot got some info about phab after some research.. I even don't know what is phab.. Can anyone give me more spesific help about how to manually upload transcodes (or at least disable autos)? RuzDD (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: Could you please explain what you mean by "autotranscode"? I can't find that term used in any context related to mediawiki. - Jmabel ! talk 00:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- [2] You can look at the bottom of this page. I call them "auto" because they are created without human touch. RuzDD (talk) 01:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying you want to have something happen differently to your uploaded audio files, or to what you get when you navigate to a the file page of an audio file? In other words, what do you want to disable? Having the transcoded files created and linked, or you seeing them? - Jmabel ! talk 01:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- I want to manually create and upload transcodes, or disable transcodes for my files at all if the first cannot be done. Reason: The MW engine creates transcodes with wrong ways, and transcodes are being too big for very low quality (and also distorted/changed/wrong content). RuzDD (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: With the proviso that I think this is a bad idea, you can indeed file a request on phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/. - Jmabel ! talk 03:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and RuzDD: In the case of an audio file, a transcode is a MP3 or Ogg Vorbis file with free compression and thus a smaller filesize with lower bitrate than the original audio, created to optimally serve one of our audio files to web browsers by mw:Extension:TimedMediaHandler. After each audio file is uploaded, that extension creates a "Transcode status" section on the audio file's file description page, which contains a link to "Update transcode status" (which will purge the page) and then a table which details the following statistics for each transcode: "Format" (sorted by audio format in decreasing order); "Bitrate" (in kbps); "Download" (a link to download that particular transcode); "Actions" (a link to "Reset transcode" for that particular transcode, in case the transcoding failed); "Status" (what happened last to that transcode and when (UTC)); and "Encode time" (how long it took a backend server to finish the transcoding process). There appears to be no provision to disable transcoding or provide your own transcodes. RuzDD, what exactly do you mean by "transcodes with wrong ways" and "transcodes are being too big for very low quality (and also distorted/changed/wrong content)"? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- MP3 must be 22050Hz 64kbps, but it's 44100Hz 106akbps. OGG must be 22050Hz ~48-64akbps but it's 44100Hz. This status wastes the storage for just a very low quality audio that very different&slow than the original. RuzDD (talk) 14:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Can anyone disable this extension or set the extension to manually enable/disable for spesific files? Humans can create very higher quality transcodes in very low filesizes. RuzDD (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Also, @Jmabel how can i put a request on phab, and what exactly is phab? RuzDD (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- phab is shoort for phabricator. It is the database used by MediaWiki to track bugs and feature requests. Your requst would be a feature request. To actully file one, you need an account at phabricator. That is easy: you go on the registration page of phab and select Wikipedia OAUTH, then your wiki account will be linked to a phab account of the same name. Once that is done, you can click on "create task" und choose "feature request" in the Phab GUI.
- However: Do you really need that? The transcodes are automagically created for all audio and video files. They are needed by the wiki software to play media in a web browser. But if you need the original you can always link to the original uploaded file. It does not get changed and is available for download. So if you have an app that needs the 48k/s orignial, you can simply enter the download url into that app and will get the original file.
- Mayby @TheDJ can explain the rationale of the transcodes that the mediawiki software uses (why they are 44k/s, not 48k/s for example) C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 15:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Transcodes those created by MW are sooo bad, they are giving the poorest quality of the world by a very huge filesize. Audios are getting slowed down, distorted, and destroyed during creation of automatic transcodes and these are resulting in a very large file size. I can create much more high quality transcodes in just very smaller file sizes in the same formats. I will write that to phab. RuzDD (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- The transcodes are the way they are because of standardisation and to allow for maximum compatibility with a large range of devices. If there are specific files that get incorrect results, then likely there is a small error in the pipeline that needs to be corrected. And provided examples of such will be analysed and fixed (eventually). —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- To my experience, all transcodes are having that very huge problems. RuzDD (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't consider it a "huge problem". The transcodes are used for the media player. May be you can upload a single of your "better" manual transcodes of a video already existing on commons, so that people can look, if your manual transcode works at least as good as the existing transcodes with the media player. If that is the case, it may be worth considering if it does make sense to consider changes to the transcoding.
- What I do consider as a problem, is the case that one or more transcodes of a video smaller than 4GiB is/are larger than 4GiB. In such a case the transcode fails completely, even so the size limit of 4GiB for files does not need to apply to transcodes. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 07:52, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- To my experience, all transcodes are having that very huge problems. RuzDD (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Also, @Jmabel how can i put a request on phab, and what exactly is phab? RuzDD (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G. Can anyone disable this extension or set the extension to manually enable/disable for spesific files? Humans can create very higher quality transcodes in very low filesizes. RuzDD (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- MP3 must be 22050Hz 64kbps, but it's 44100Hz 106akbps. OGG must be 22050Hz ~48-64akbps but it's 44100Hz. This status wastes the storage for just a very low quality audio that very different&slow than the original. RuzDD (talk) 14:57, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and RuzDD: In the case of an audio file, a transcode is a MP3 or Ogg Vorbis file with free compression and thus a smaller filesize with lower bitrate than the original audio, created to optimally serve one of our audio files to web browsers by mw:Extension:TimedMediaHandler. After each audio file is uploaded, that extension creates a "Transcode status" section on the audio file's file description page, which contains a link to "Update transcode status" (which will purge the page) and then a table which details the following statistics for each transcode: "Format" (sorted by audio format in decreasing order); "Bitrate" (in kbps); "Download" (a link to download that particular transcode); "Actions" (a link to "Reset transcode" for that particular transcode, in case the transcoding failed); "Status" (what happened last to that transcode and when (UTC)); and "Encode time" (how long it took a backend server to finish the transcoding process). There appears to be no provision to disable transcoding or provide your own transcodes. RuzDD, what exactly do you mean by "transcodes with wrong ways" and "transcodes are being too big for very low quality (and also distorted/changed/wrong content)"? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RuzDD: With the proviso that I think this is a bad idea, you can indeed file a request on phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/. - Jmabel ! talk 03:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- I want to manually create and upload transcodes, or disable transcodes for my files at all if the first cannot be done. Reason: The MW engine creates transcodes with wrong ways, and transcodes are being too big for very low quality (and also distorted/changed/wrong content). RuzDD (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are you saying you want to have something happen differently to your uploaded audio files, or to what you get when you navigate to a the file page of an audio file? In other words, what do you want to disable? Having the transcoded files created and linked, or you seeing them? - Jmabel ! talk 01:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- [2] You can look at the bottom of this page. I call them "auto" because they are created without human touch. RuzDD (talk) 01:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Flag[edit]
Hi there, I wanted to upload the flag (or banner) of an ancient empire so that I can edit an article. Can I upload the image? Thespaniord (talk) 09:16, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Thespaniord: Probably. The simplest thing would be if you have a U.S.-published image of it from 1928 or earlier, which would certainly be in the public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 18:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Presuming it is an actual documented historic flag (we sometimes have a problem with people creating make-believe flags - don't do that). -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Диалог[edit]
Здравствуйте, я не малость удивлен и рад встрече с вами. Но имея ещё часть сомнений хотел бы задать вопросы, и предложить свои решения. Если это возможно на не гласных правах, не обмани не навреди с обеих сторон. Iso4you (talk) 13:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Iso4you: Это страница для получения помощи по использованию Wikimedia Commons. У вас есть вопрос? - Jmabel ! talk 18:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Where (and how) do I post template requests?[edit]
I have searched the help pages with no luck. I have made a lot of templates over the years, but now I need help creating one. Is there a specific help page for template requests? / abbedabbtalk 23:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there is anything specific. If you have some specific questions, this is probably as good a place as any to ask. - Jmabel ! talk 00:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I am looking for a template that works like {{Label}}, but has the ability to set custom text for the link, similar to [[link to page|display text]], but with the same functions as {{Label}} (that first tries to link to a Wikipedia page in the user's language, and secondly to Wikidata).
- I was thinking it could be used for shortening the displayed link text when writing things like
"Trams M28 768, M28 730, and M28 722"
but displaying
"Trams M28 768, 730, and 722" (with links)
or
"Stellan Skarsgård and Alexander Skarsgård"
but displaying
"Stellan and Alexander Skarsgård". /abbedabbtalk 05:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)- @Abbedabb: The Commons:WikiProject Templates seems to have been inactive for many years and the sv:Wikipedia:Projekt mallstandardisering as well. Given that Template:Label is not something specific to Commons, but exists also in many other Wikimedia websites, I think your best luck would be either to ask at a project that is active on another website, such as en:Wikipedia:Requested templates at en.wikipedia, or to ask for advice from the user (User:Jarekt) who transposed Template:Label on Commons or from the user (User:Ainali) who transposed sv:Mall:Etikett to sv.wikipedia. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- {{W}} does this. - Jmabel ! talk 20:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- (not that it does the exact thing you are trying to do, but it lets the user pass in a label for a link). - Jmabel ! talk 20:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Account[edit]
I have been trying to create a wikicommons account but it keeps saying error how can i fix that 41.116.201.188 06:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, and welcome. Please be more specific about the exact error message. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
حذف فوری به دلیل ایجاد ترس و وهن[edit]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7_%D8%B4%DB%8C%D8%AE%DB%8C_%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9%D9%87_1.jpg . لطفا این عکس را با توجه به پایان کرونا و وجود ماسک روی صورت حذف کنید ... ماسک باعث وجود ترس و وهن و استرس مخاطب میگردد و همچنین به نظر می یاد این عکس با دشمنی گذاشته شده است Ghoghnos128 (talk) 11:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Please remove this photo considering the end of Corona and the presence of a mask on the face.
- @Ghoghnos128: سلام و خوش آمدید همهگیری ممکن است به پایان رسیده باشد، اما کرونا-19 اینجا باقی مانده است. COM:DP/fa را نیز ببینید.
- Hi, and welcome. The pandemic may have ended, but COVID-19 is here to stay. See also COM:DP. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
احساس ترس و دشمنی[edit]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7_%D8%B4%DB%8C%D8%AE%DB%8C_%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9%D9%87_1.jpg . لطفا این عکس را که در زمان کرونا گرفته شده و اکنون باعث وهن و ترس جامعه است را پاک کنید Ghoghnos128 (talk) 21:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ghoghnos128: در بالا پرسیده شد و پاسخ داد.
- Asked and answered above. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Please do final fix up of this Commons file below[edit]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sarah_Meadows_Martineau_(d.1800).jpg
I am sure that any engraving of this work would have been done in the EARLY 19th century - NOT the late 19th century as it currently says: "Description English: Drawing of Norwich Matriarch Sarah Meadows Martineau (d.1800). This may be a late 19th-century engraving of that drawing."
Please fix to: "...may be an early 19th century engraving of that drawing".
I worked out the year of birth of Sarah from the Leodis website. Finally, Commons has portraits of many, many subjects with their "titles". Thus, I have placed the word "Dame" in the description believing this the correct approach. I hope you are OK with this! (For what it's worth, to my mind, the title "Dame" should be in the actual title of the Commons page under discussion).
Thank you 175.38.42.62 23:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- This unsourced version does not look like an engraving. It looks more like a photograph of a painting, see the reflected light to the left, printed on a book page. The artifacts on this reproduction look like printing artifacts, not engraving lines. Compare with the different version at wikitree.com, which is a copy of an engraving. -- Asclepias (talk) 00:31, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Asclepias: I settled on "late 18th-century or early 19th-century". — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- I still disagree with the statement that this image is an image of an engraving. I think it is not. Regarding the date to write in the description page of this file, the only rather safe estimation is for the painting, for the reasons you stated before. I think that estimating the date of the painting to "circa 1800" (or to "late 18th-century or early 19th-century" if you prefer) is fine. Given that we don't have the source of the photo, we have no basis to speculate about the date of the photo and we do not need to, unless someone finds its source. -- Asclepias (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Asclepias: I settled on "late 18th-century or early 19th-century". — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Editing and Writing[edit]
How do I start editing I have already saw the tutorial and when can I start writing my own stories AhmedKhalidKhan2010 (talk) 00:35, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @AhmedKhalidKhan2010 Hi, and welcome. Commons is not the place for that, neither is Wikipedia. Such stories would be out of scope for any WMF project. Try Facebook, Blogspot, or somewhere else in the blogosphere. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- so how come there are definitions of things can i do the same AhmedKhalidKhan2010 (talk) 01:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @AhmedKhalidKhan2010: can you give a bit more of a description of what you are trying to do? and have you read COM:SCOPE, which describes what this site is? - Jmabel ! talk 01:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- so how come there are definitions of things can i do the same AhmedKhalidKhan2010 (talk) 01:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
For Approval Realistic MH Tuhin Article[edit]
Hello X, I requested a article Realistic MH tuhin . I cannot Understand , what happened , why you are not approve this article, Please Sir Accept it . and make me proud in wikipedia. this my urges . please ans this question . or give me your Bangladesh Office address so that i can go . Realisticmhtuhin (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Realisticmhtuhin: does this question have any bearing on Wikimedia Commons (the site you posted it on)?
- Have you read the English-language Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest? Given that your account name is the same as the topic you say you are writing about, I'm guessing that you should. - Jmabel ! talk 18:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
How to Update a Company Logo Properly[edit]
Hi there. I am a brand manager at a large firm who has a presence here. We have recently updated the firm's logo and as a member of the team who manages the logo we would like to update across all platforms, including Wikipedia/Commons, to feature the latest logo. I want to ensure I am following proper protocol but am getting a little confused. I have the official logo files and details of the licensing that should be associated with them. Is someone able to advise on the proper way to update a company logo? I appreciate your help. Hud77 (talk) 19:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Hud77: It would be so much simpler if you would say what in particular we are talking about rather than ask in the abstract. You don't even say what country we are talking about, and copyright laws vary considerably from country to country.
- A few points will be the same no matter what we are talking about:
- If the old logo is already on Commons, it should be left as it is (visually) because we are as interested in historical logos as current ones. It is, of course, reasonable to say on the file page that it is no longer a current logo.
- If the logo is so simple that it is not copyrightable (thresholds vary widely from country to country), you can upload it using {{PD-ineligible}} and {{Trademarked}} in lieu of a license.
- If the logo is copyrighted, then the only way we can accept it on Commons is if the copyright-holder grants a "free license"; typically this would be {{CC-BY}} or {{CC-BY-SA}}. Both of these allow reuse, including commercial use and derivative works, but require attribution. For a company logo, this would have to go through the process described at COM:VRT; when uploading, you would specify the relevant license plus {{Trademarked}}. We've found, however, that very few companies would want to grant a license like this, preferring not to license what they consider valuable intellectual property.
- If none of the above apply, so it is not possible to upload the image to Commons, but you still wish to have your up-to-date logo in a Wikipedia article: some of the Wikipedias (including the English-language Wikipedia, but excluding, for example, the German-language Wikipedia) make certain allowance for non-free use. For the English-language Wikipedia, see en:Wikipedia:Logos. Note that this approach does not involve Wikimedia Commons at all.
- I hope that gives you what you need. To tell you anything more useful, you'd really have to say what country we are talking about, and it would help enormously if you could link to a page that shows the new logo in question. - Jmabel ! talk 19:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Jmabel, thank you for your response! Apologies for not including all the details, I wasn't sure what was appropriate to include in this forum. This is United States specific and here is the new logo on our site: https://www.morganstanley.com. There are subtle but important changes that differ from the logo currently present: File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg - Wikimedia Commons. Let me know if this additional information helps? I appreciate your help! Hud77 (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- Convenience link: File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg - Jmabel ! talk 19:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Hud77: Uploaded for you at File:Morgan Stanley Logo 2024.png. You will probably want to edit the "description" at File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg to indicate at what date this was superseded.
- Also, I'm guessing you will want to change this on the many relevant Wikipedia pages (which are identified in the lower portion of File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg). Make sure that as a (presumably) paid editor you do all of the proper disclosures in any Wikipedia you edit. See en:WP:COI as a starting point on the English-language Wikipedia, and if you are having a hard time navigating the situation, feel free to hit me up on my user talk page either here on Commons or at en-wiki. I'll pretty much always respond within 24 hours. - Jmabel ! talk 19:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, I see we already had File:MS Standard Logo 2022 Black.jpg, a JPEG that appears to be visually identical to File:Morgan Stanley Logo 2024.png. - Jmabel ! talk 20:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Thank you very much for your help. Yes, actually the File:MS Standard Logo 2022 Black.jpg is the official logo file that I was hoping to make the primary logo - are you able to update that to be so? And thank you, I will reference en:WP:COI to start updating the relevant Wikipedia pages that leverage the logo. I will message you on your user talk page if I have trouble. Again, really appreciate your help! Hud77 (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- The only place I'm aware of in the WMF world that has an explicit notion of a "primary" (actually "preferred") logo is on Wikidata (Morgan Stanley (Q334204)), where I've already fixed that. That will trickle through to a lot of the smaller Wikipedias (as you can see on the lower portion of the page at File:Morgan Stanley Logo 2024.png), which draw content for infoboxes from Wikidata. It won't affect en-wiki, which does not use that approach. - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel thank you! That makes sense. Appreciate the insight. Last question - For me to update the en-wiki pages that use the original logo (found in the lower portion of File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg), I will just need to manually edit those to leverage the new logo, correct? Everything else will populate from Wikidata? Thank you so much for helping me navigate this. Hud77 (talk) 21:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you can do the replacements manually. Or if you prefer you can make a request at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands to replace the file in all the pages where the file is used directly. And yes, everything that merely mirrors the Wikidata usage will mirror whatever is currently on Wikidata. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Hud77 and Asclepias: I'd be cautious about User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands for this. There may be a place where the older version is used specifically to show the difference in the logo at different dates. I really think manually is a better idea here. - Jmabel ! talk 02:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and @Asclepias Thank you both, I really appreciate all the insights (there is certainly a learning curve for me). Great call on the caution, what I did was look at where within en.wiki the original File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg is used and double checked each usage (19 in total) and am able to confirm that none of the uses are depicting the logo at different dates, so I feel confident that it would be okay to use the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CommonsDelinker/commands feature. However, when I went to do so I tried, but got worried that I was going to mess it up as I am not used to that type of editing and don't want to cause any issues. Would it be too much to ask if one of you could replace the current logo with the new one @Jmabel created above? Thank you for all of your help! Hud77 (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I still have my doubts -- it is used in some contexts in languages I don't read -- but I guess I'll go for doing it in an automated manner. I'll admit this doesn't "smell good" to me. - Jmabel ! talk 18:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel I respect you as the expert on this so if it's not something you're totally comfortable with I don't want to push it. If so, could you help me just update the logo on the main Morgan Stanley page: Morgan Stanley - Wikipedia to feature the new logo where the old one sits above the image of our building? Thank you for your continued support, I really appreciate it. Hud77 (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I went ahead and requested it. At the moment, it is still in the queue. I'm just a little concerned with the followup I'll have to do to make sure it didn't do anything wrong; I'm not sure that will be a lot less than it would have been to do it by hand in the first place. - Jmabel ! talk 21:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel I respect you as the expert on this so if it's not something you're totally comfortable with I don't want to push it. If so, could you help me just update the logo on the main Morgan Stanley page: Morgan Stanley - Wikipedia to feature the new logo where the old one sits above the image of our building? Thank you for your continued support, I really appreciate it. Hud77 (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I still have my doubts -- it is used in some contexts in languages I don't read -- but I guess I'll go for doing it in an automated manner. I'll admit this doesn't "smell good" to me. - Jmabel ! talk 18:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and @Asclepias Thank you both, I really appreciate all the insights (there is certainly a learning curve for me). Great call on the caution, what I did was look at where within en.wiki the original File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg is used and double checked each usage (19 in total) and am able to confirm that none of the uses are depicting the logo at different dates, so I feel confident that it would be okay to use the https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CommonsDelinker/commands feature. However, when I went to do so I tried, but got worried that I was going to mess it up as I am not used to that type of editing and don't want to cause any issues. Would it be too much to ask if one of you could replace the current logo with the new one @Jmabel created above? Thank you for all of your help! Hud77 (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Hud77 and Asclepias: I'd be cautious about User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands for this. There may be a place where the older version is used specifically to show the difference in the logo at different dates. I really think manually is a better idea here. - Jmabel ! talk 02:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you can do the replacements manually. Or if you prefer you can make a request at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands to replace the file in all the pages where the file is used directly. And yes, everything that merely mirrors the Wikidata usage will mirror whatever is currently on Wikidata. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel thank you! That makes sense. Appreciate the insight. Last question - For me to update the en-wiki pages that use the original logo (found in the lower portion of File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg), I will just need to manually edit those to leverage the new logo, correct? Everything else will populate from Wikidata? Thank you so much for helping me navigate this. Hud77 (talk) 21:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- The only place I'm aware of in the WMF world that has an explicit notion of a "primary" (actually "preferred") logo is on Wikidata (Morgan Stanley (Q334204)), where I've already fixed that. That will trickle through to a lot of the smaller Wikipedias (as you can see on the lower portion of the page at File:Morgan Stanley Logo 2024.png), which draw content for infoboxes from Wikidata. It won't affect en-wiki, which does not use that approach. - Jmabel ! talk 20:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel Thank you very much for your help. Yes, actually the File:MS Standard Logo 2022 Black.jpg is the official logo file that I was hoping to make the primary logo - are you able to update that to be so? And thank you, I will reference en:WP:COI to start updating the relevant Wikipedia pages that leverage the logo. I will message you on your user talk page if I have trouble. Again, really appreciate your help! Hud77 (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Jmabel, thank you for your response! Apologies for not including all the details, I wasn't sure what was appropriate to include in this forum. This is United States specific and here is the new logo on our site: https://www.morganstanley.com. There are subtle but important changes that differ from the logo currently present: File:Morgan Stanley Logo 1.svg - Wikimedia Commons. Let me know if this additional information helps? I appreciate your help! Hud77 (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
User contact[edit]
How to I get in touch with a certain user to ask him/her about copyright for a certain picture? Lillkatten (talk) 21:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Lillkatten: You email them (using the "Email this user" link on their user page) or you leave a message on their user talk page. (To email them, you both have to have email addresses associated with your accounts.) Also: have you checked to make sure that the user in question is active (has recent contributions)? - Jmabel ! talk 02:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Online women's magazine has gone into administration, I wish to upload their old logo advice needed?[edit]
Hello,
The Pool magazine was online women's magazine which has since gone into administration and closed down (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47089836). I would like to use their logo from the Internet Archive to add it to the infobox. Please advise? Greenpark79 (talk) 13:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Greenpark79: Going out of business has no effect on copyright (except to make it difficult to identify the successor organization that may own the copyright, so it is harder to get permissions). If the logo we are talking about is the thing of the woman floating in a pink inner tube, it is certainly copyrighted.
- I'm not sure what infobox you are referring to, but if the logo is copyrighted and we don't have a free license, it does not belong on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification! Greenpark79 (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is the logo I'm referring to https://web.archive.org/web/20150611165502im_/https://d3enniz247y0a9.cloudfront.net/website/static/images/ui/the-pool-logo.svg Greenpark79 (talk) 20:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Opinion on this logo? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:27, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Greenpark79: Do you mean https://www.the-pool.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/The-Pool-Logo.png for use in en:Draft:The Pool (online women's magazine)? What does it mean for a business to go "into administration"? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 20:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm afraid not. THat's a different logo from the companny which went into administration. It refers to when a business is insolvent and cannot pay its bills. More info can be found here: https://companieshouse.blog.gov.uk/2019/02/27/what-does-going-into-administration-mean/ Greenpark79 (talk) 20:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- In the U.S. https://web.archive.org/web/20150611165502im_/https://d3enniz247y0a9.cloudfront.net/website/static/images/ui/the-pool-logo.svg would definitely be below the threshold of originality, but the UK threshold is very low so I'm not sure.
- @Greenpark79: you still haven't said what "infobox" you are concerned with. Is this something on Commons? If it's for en-wiki, you could certainly upload this to en-wiki for the relevant article as a [possibly] non-free logo. See en:Driving Standards Agency and its logo for a fairly good example of how to do that. - Jmabel ! talk 21:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's the magazine infobox template. I was trying to work out where to upload a non-free logo. Greenpark79 (talk) 21:14, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Greenpark79: Again: are we talking about the English-language Wikipedia, Commons, or somewhere else? There are several hundred WMF projects. "the magazine infobox template" tells me nothing. - Jmabel ! talk 21:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the driving standards agency logo, will upload it directly onto English language Wikipedia as a non-free logo. Greenpark79 (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Greenpark79: Again: are we talking about the English-language Wikipedia, Commons, or somewhere else? There are several hundred WMF projects. "the magazine infobox template" tells me nothing. - Jmabel ! talk 21:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's the magazine infobox template. I was trying to work out where to upload a non-free logo. Greenpark79 (talk) 21:14, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm afraid not. THat's a different logo from the companny which went into administration. It refers to when a business is insolvent and cannot pay its bills. More info can be found here: https://companieshouse.blog.gov.uk/2019/02/27/what-does-going-into-administration-mean/ Greenpark79 (talk) 20:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: What does it mean for a business to go "into administration"? It means that the business cannot pay its debts and the creditors have asked a third party to take over the running of the business while its future is decided. The administrators have three main options:
- They can "streamline" the business to enable to to beome profitable which might include getting loans from the banks or asking shareholders to put more money into the business
- They can sell the business as a "going concern" to a third party who might be interested in for example, for example, unfulfilled contracts.
- They can declare the company bankrupt.
In the case in question, (which I have not researched), the administrators might sell the title as a going concern to a publishing house who will relaunch it. The new publishing house will then own the copyright etc of the old business. Martinvl (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: it's similar to what in the U.S. is called a "Chapter 11 bankruptcy", though of course not identical. - Jmabel ! talk 00:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
How do I upload my own artificial intelligence art[edit]
Upload my own AI art Digitnfts (talk) 20:58, 10 January 2024 (UTC)