Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/01/Category:Setsumatsusha

Category:Setsumatsusha

I want to make the subcategories more standardized. Some of them are called "Sessha and Massha of X shrine" in various capitalizations. I think we should harmonize the names of the subcategories a bit. Maybe either rename it to Category:Sessha and Massha or rename the categories to "Setsumatsusha of X Shrine". My understanding is that they are effectively one thing now, and we do not need to distinguish between the two. Although Sessha have a link to the main shrine deity, and Massha are unlinked deities enshrined at the shrine due to often widespread popularity. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 22:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Additional categories to work on this for. Pardon the ridiculous size.

Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 22:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I only recently created the category, but the subcategories were in existence for a very long time. Independently created for each of these 64 shrines without any coordination about common naming. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 22:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Saigen Jiro and @Aiaiaiaiaia seem to have made the bulk of these categories Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 02:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

@Clusternote you recently linked Category:Keidai-sha in Setsumatsusha. Do you think it should be merged with this one Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

@Immanuelle: the intention of the {{See also category}} on that page is not the proposal of merge, but the indication of another classification axis {Keidai-sha, Keigai-sha};
Note: By the combination of that pair and the {Sessha, Massha} pair, logically every media could be potentially categorized into four sub-categories, i.e. {Keidai-Sessha, Keidai-Massha, Keigai-Sessha, Keigai-Massha}. Practically, however, it may be hard to categorize every media into these four, in my opinion. Clusternote (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

@Clusternote I do not know what Keidai-sha and Keigai-sha are. How does the axis of categorization work? If the distinction is as hard to do as Sessha and Massha then it might be worth merging all 4 into one category. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

•  Support.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 11:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Support. I think "Setsumatsusha of" is better than "Sessha and massha of". The latter is only appropriate when the shrine has both, and if it only has massha, it should be "Massha of", but it's often hard to tell which is the case. Whether each setsumatsusha is a sessha or massha is largely determined by the shrine's own tradition, but it's not always evident from the official website. Aiaiaiaiaia (talk) 13:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)